Dziś to się nie ma już co nawet pierdzielić tylko pakować w elki.
Jeszcze wygraną Obamy musi przetrawić Europa i USA dopiero imo w czwartek po południu lub piątek zaczną się eski.
Na razie jest piękne short squeeze.
DayTrading: Środa 7.11.2012
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movinghead
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Re: DayTrading: Środa 7.11.2012
jak sie ktos zapakował w longi na eurusd teraz to powodzenia w przeciągu kilku najbliższych godzin 
L-to co najwyżej na korekcie można spróbować - rynek za bardzo szalał w nocy
DIJAcfd zrobił ponad 250 punktowy impulsywny manewr na przestrzeni minut
przetrzęsie sie troche i bedzie można na logi wracać
L-to co najwyżej na korekcie można spróbować - rynek za bardzo szalał w nocy
DIJAcfd zrobił ponad 250 punktowy impulsywny manewr na przestrzeni minut
przetrzęsie sie troche i bedzie można na logi wracać
Re: DayTrading: Środa 7.11.2012
movinghead pisze:jak sie ktos zapakował w longi na eurusd teraz to powodzenia w przeciągu kilku najbliższych godzin
L-to co najwyżej na korekcie można spróbować - rynek za bardzo szalał w nocy
DIJAcfd zrobił ponad 250 punktowy impulsywny manewr na przestrzeni minut
przetrzęsie sie troche i bedzie można na logi wracać
RISK OFF - obligacje i zlotow rynki akcji powinny tracic - klif fiskalny
Re: DayTrading: Środa 7.11.2012
zeby londyn taki ruch na e.j odpuscil ? i dalej w gore , cos mi sie nie wydaje . ja poczekam na ~102,53
jak uzyskać parytet na edku -swieca z 03.12 - tu podjada pod 1,053 i wtedy rura w jeden dzien 500 piepek
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Mpapiez
Re: DayTrading: Środa 7.11.2012
movinghead pisze:jak sie ktos zapakował w longi na eurusd teraz to powodzenia w przeciągu kilku najbliższych godzin
L-to co najwyżej na korekcie można spróbować - rynek za bardzo szalał w nocy
DIJAcfd zrobił ponad 250 punktowy impulsywny manewr na przestrzeni minut
przetrzęsie sie troche i bedzie można na logi wracać
No tak - bo przecież jest już tak wysoko, że wyżej nie może być.
To samo mówili po ogłoszeniu QE3 - że najpierw korekta by się przydała - tylko cały trik w tym, że ten ruch jest korekta ostatnich spadków.
Re: DayTrading: Środa 7.11.2012
powrot do dolca nie długo znowu bedzie pod klif fiskalny risk OFF na USD trzeb szukać pod to S na razie korekta spadkow pod Obame a w UE sie nic nie zmienilo - kryzysMpapiez pisze:movinghead pisze:jak sie ktos zapakował w longi na eurusd teraz to powodzenia w przeciągu kilku najbliższych godzin
L-to co najwyżej na korekcie można spróbować - rynek za bardzo szalał w nocy
DIJAcfd zrobił ponad 250 punktowy impulsywny manewr na przestrzeni minut
przetrzęsie sie troche i bedzie można na logi wracać
No tak - bo przecież jest już tak wysoko, że wyżej nie może być.
To samo mówili po ogłoszeniu QE3 - że najpierw korekta by się przydała - tylko cały trik w tym, że ten ruch jest korekta ostatnich spadków.
-- Dodano: śr 07-11-2012, 8:53 --
po chwilowej eufori wracamy do realiów gospodarczych
-- Dodano: śr 07-11-2012, 8:59 --
a teraz po Sl elka UE powinno przejechac spokojnie do 12830-40
podwojny szczyt na edziu a pozniej juz reakcja na indeksach USA gdy wejdzie do gry i szukanie S na SP500
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niemiaszek
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Re: DayTrading: Środa 7.11.2012
Hello
EUROPE: With the US election votes in and largely counted, attention
refocuses on the fundamentals - although Wednesday sees a fairly light
day, giving many the chance to get over a late night of election
watching. Spanish data starts at 0800GMT, with the release of Spanish
September industrial output. This will be followed at 0830GMT, with the
release of the Riksbank minutes from the monetary policy meeting October
24. Further EMU data is expected at 1000GMT, with the release of the
eurozone September retail trade numbers. At 1100GMT, German September
industrial output data will cross the wires. Also on the European
calendar, the European Commission is scheduled publish its 2012 Autumn
Forecasts and hold a Brussels press conference. At 1210GMT, ECB
President Mario Draghi is set to give a keynote speech at the Business
Forum 2012 event entitled "Capitalism In Crisis?" in Frankfurt.
GREECE: Greek coalition officials expect the vote on the austerity
measures to pass, eKathimerini reports, although party leaders continue
to cajole possible waverers. The website says tonight's vote is
expected around midnight local time, 10PM GMT.
UK PRESS: Average UK house prices will not return to their pre-recession
levels until 2019, estate agent Knight Frank says, noting it will be the
"longest housing recovery in 60 years," the paper says.
UK PRESS: The Times' Shadow MPC says the Bank of England should hold
fire on further QE until the impact of the Funding for Lending scheme is
clearer, the paper reports.
UK PRESS: The CEBR forecasts a further 13,000 jobs will be lost across
The City in 2013, the Telegraph reports, adding to the 100,000 jobs lost
since the peak of the financial markets in 2007.
US: With the US election votes in and largely counted, attention
refocuses on the fundamentals - although Wednesday sees a fairly light
day, giving many the chance to get over a late night of election
watching. The US starts clearing the bunting away early and readies for
the 1100GMT release of the Nov 2 week MBA Mortgage Applications numbers
are released. The Nymex complex will be closely watching at 1330GMT,
when the OPEC World Oil Outlook report will hit the screens, while at
1530GMT, the EIA Crude Oil Stocks. Late data, at 2000GMT, the September
Consumer Credit numbers and the October Treasury Allotments By Class
numbers will cross the wires. Consumer credit usage is forecast to rise
$12.0 billion in September after surging by $18.1 billion in August.
Retail sales rose 1.1% in the month, both including and excluding motor
vehicle sales.
EURO-DOLLAR: Closed in NY at $1.2813, after rate had recovered off
session lows of $1.2764 to $1.2827, with reported offers placed at the
200-dma ($1.2828) providing the main resistance. US election exit
polls/results began to filter through into the Asian session and acted
to direct moves. Early exit polls from Florida favoured the Republican
Romney and prompted dollar demand which pressed the rate to lows of
$1.2783. However, as the night progressed and it looked increasingly
likely that Pres. Obama would achieve the necessary electoral college
votes to serve another 4-years it reversed the dollar's course with
strong sales then driving the rate to a session high of $1.2875. Strong
offers placed into $1.2880 provided a counter and prompted some profit
take sales that have since taken the rate back to $1.2855, settling
around $1.2860 as Romney conceded defeat. Stops have been reported above
$1.2885, though further offers seen into $1.2890/00. Bids placed at
$1.2830/20 (200-dma today at $1.2827) ahead of $1.2805/00. US election
fall out to remain a key driver of FX through the day.
CABLE: Closed in NY at $1.5996, off its recovery high of $1.6008, seen
after rate had seen lows earlier in the session of $1.5958. Exit
polls/results from Tuesday's US election acted to determine direction
through Asian trade overnight, with early calls that Romney would win
Florida providing the dollar with an early boost that took cable to
Asian session lows of $1.5969. However, as results began to filter
through and show Pres. Obama on course to gain the necessary Electoral
College votes to win the dollar was sold back with rate pressured to a
high of $1.6037 before momentum faded. Rate eased to $1.6022 before
picking up fresh demand ahead of the European open, the rate trading
back above $1.6030 into the session. Expectation that continued fall out
from the election result will be a major determinate of direction
through the day on position adjustment as analysts publish their
reports. A light UK calendar today, BOE Haldane is due to testify to the
UK Banking Panel at 0930GMT the domestic highlight. Attention turning
to Thursday's rate announcement from the BOE, followed by the ECB.
Dollar-yen declines following the bearish inside-day/harami
pattern, the pair moved lower breaking support levls to be turned away
from the former 38.2% Fibonacci level at Y79.82, now initial support
with the session low at Y79.81. Daily tech studies are also weaker and
we see traders eyeing a move down to the 200-DMA at Y79.63. Initial
resistance seen as the Oct 25 and 26 highs at Y80.34/38.
Euro-yen continues to test the lower channel support level as
downside pressure mounts, however bulls are winning the struggle to keep
the pair within the rising channel. Initial support at Y102.16/20, the
channel lower and the 200-DMA. The weekly Tenkan line also forms support
around Y102.05. Daily tech studies remain bearish, however 10-day
momentum is a touch firmer. Initial res seen around Y103.87-99.
Japan's benchmark stock indices ended Wednesday's session mixed.
The Nikkei 225 was lower by 2.26 points, or 0.03%, at 8972.89. Just
ahead of the close, the broader-based TOPIX was higher by 1.07 points at
745.95. Preliminary volume in the Nikkei stocks totalled 1.1338 bn
shares, with 99 issues higher, 95 lower and 31 unchanged.
The Shanghai Composite Index ends the morning session down 0.30% at
2,099.65.
The Hang Seng Index ends the morning session down 0.35% at 21,867.67.
GOLD: Spot gold prices are trading in positive territory Wednesday,
extending their gains posted during the previous day. Spot gold ended
Tuesday's session $31 higher at $1716/oz, driven by some weakness
observed in the US dollar after Barrack Obama was re-elected in the US,
paving the way for continued monetary stimulus in the world's largest
economy. Gold prices have extended their gains during Asian hours this
morning, advancing from intra-day lows of $1705.93/oz to print an
intra-day high of $1728.50/oz a few moments ago. Metals brokers also
report macro buying around $1725/oz on the London opening. Spot gold
currently trades at $1725.40/oz, up $9.40 on the session.
OIL: December NYMEX WTI prices are trading marginally lower Wednesday
after posting some strong gains during the previous session. December
WTI futures ended Tuesday's session $3.06 higher at $88.71 a barrel,
outperforming a strong Election Day jump in global equity markets, with
many market participants surprised by the surge in oil prices. Some
traders saw the rally as mainly technical driven after oil prices did
not sustain levels below $85 a barrel during Monday's session. In terms
of supply, US crude inventories fell 27,000 barrels in the week ending
November 2, according to the American Petroleum Institute's weekly
report released late on Tuesday, against expectations that crude stocks
would be higher. Focus now turns to today's Energy Information
Administration (EIA) weekly oil data, due to be published today at
1530GMT. December WTI futures have advanced from session lows of $87.87
this morning, to trade an intra-day high of $88.60, with the market
currently trading $88.48 a barrel, down 23 cents on the session.
NATURAL GAS: NYMEX December natural gas futures are trading lower
Wednesday after prices posted some decent gains during the previous
session. December natural gas futures ended Tuesday's session up 6.3
cents, or 1.8%, at $3.617 per million British thermal units (Btu) after
trading in a range between $3.513 and $3.62. Prices were underpinned by
expectations for a fairly light inventory build and by some cold weather
scheduled for this week, stirring demand for more heating, despite
concerns about record-high supplies. December natural gas prices have
edged their way back lower this morning from an intra-day high of $3.617
to hold at a session low of $3.581, with the market currently remaining
near the lower end of its range trading $3.584 per mln Btu.
FX: Option expiries for today's 1000EDT cut,
* Euro-dollar; $1.2900, $1.2875, $1.2850, $1.2800, $1.2750, $1.2955
* Dollar-yen; Y79.75, Y79.95, Y80.00, Y80.50
* Cable; $1.6025
* Euro-sterling; stg0.8035
* Aussie; $1.0370, $1.0375, $1.0400, $1.0425
EUROZONE: Timeline of key events in the eurozone for next few weeks:
- Nov 6/7 Greek unions 48-hour strike to protest austerity
- Nov 7 ECB Draghi speaks on eurozone economy in Frankfurt at 1210GMT
- Nov 7 EU issues Autumn Economic forecasts
- Nov 7 German FinMin Schaeuble attend parliamentary budget committee
- Nov 7 German Merkel speaks to European Parliament at 1515GMT
- Nov 7 Greek parliament vote on labor market reforms at 2200GMT
- Nov 8 ECB meeting, Draghi's first anniversary as ECB President
- Nov 8 Spain sells 2015-/2018 Bono-/2032 Oblig bonds for up to E4.5bn
- Nov 8 German Merkel meet British PM Cameron, in London
- Nov 8 Greek Aug unemployment data
- Nov 8/9 AFME European govt bond conference - EU debt chiefs speak
- Nov 9 Greece T-bill redemption for E1.6bln
- Nov 11 Greek parliament votes on 2013 Budget
- Nov 11 Armistice day holiday
- Nov 12 Eurogroup meeting to discuss Greek program furthe
EUROPE: With the US election votes in and largely counted, attention
refocuses on the fundamentals - although Wednesday sees a fairly light
day, giving many the chance to get over a late night of election
watching. Spanish data starts at 0800GMT, with the release of Spanish
September industrial output. This will be followed at 0830GMT, with the
release of the Riksbank minutes from the monetary policy meeting October
24. Further EMU data is expected at 1000GMT, with the release of the
eurozone September retail trade numbers. At 1100GMT, German September
industrial output data will cross the wires. Also on the European
calendar, the European Commission is scheduled publish its 2012 Autumn
Forecasts and hold a Brussels press conference. At 1210GMT, ECB
President Mario Draghi is set to give a keynote speech at the Business
Forum 2012 event entitled "Capitalism In Crisis?" in Frankfurt.
GREECE: Greek coalition officials expect the vote on the austerity
measures to pass, eKathimerini reports, although party leaders continue
to cajole possible waverers. The website says tonight's vote is
expected around midnight local time, 10PM GMT.
UK PRESS: Average UK house prices will not return to their pre-recession
levels until 2019, estate agent Knight Frank says, noting it will be the
"longest housing recovery in 60 years," the paper says.
UK PRESS: The Times' Shadow MPC says the Bank of England should hold
fire on further QE until the impact of the Funding for Lending scheme is
clearer, the paper reports.
UK PRESS: The CEBR forecasts a further 13,000 jobs will be lost across
The City in 2013, the Telegraph reports, adding to the 100,000 jobs lost
since the peak of the financial markets in 2007.
US: With the US election votes in and largely counted, attention
refocuses on the fundamentals - although Wednesday sees a fairly light
day, giving many the chance to get over a late night of election
watching. The US starts clearing the bunting away early and readies for
the 1100GMT release of the Nov 2 week MBA Mortgage Applications numbers
are released. The Nymex complex will be closely watching at 1330GMT,
when the OPEC World Oil Outlook report will hit the screens, while at
1530GMT, the EIA Crude Oil Stocks. Late data, at 2000GMT, the September
Consumer Credit numbers and the October Treasury Allotments By Class
numbers will cross the wires. Consumer credit usage is forecast to rise
$12.0 billion in September after surging by $18.1 billion in August.
Retail sales rose 1.1% in the month, both including and excluding motor
vehicle sales.
EURO-DOLLAR: Closed in NY at $1.2813, after rate had recovered off
session lows of $1.2764 to $1.2827, with reported offers placed at the
200-dma ($1.2828) providing the main resistance. US election exit
polls/results began to filter through into the Asian session and acted
to direct moves. Early exit polls from Florida favoured the Republican
Romney and prompted dollar demand which pressed the rate to lows of
$1.2783. However, as the night progressed and it looked increasingly
likely that Pres. Obama would achieve the necessary electoral college
votes to serve another 4-years it reversed the dollar's course with
strong sales then driving the rate to a session high of $1.2875. Strong
offers placed into $1.2880 provided a counter and prompted some profit
take sales that have since taken the rate back to $1.2855, settling
around $1.2860 as Romney conceded defeat. Stops have been reported above
$1.2885, though further offers seen into $1.2890/00. Bids placed at
$1.2830/20 (200-dma today at $1.2827) ahead of $1.2805/00. US election
fall out to remain a key driver of FX through the day.
CABLE: Closed in NY at $1.5996, off its recovery high of $1.6008, seen
after rate had seen lows earlier in the session of $1.5958. Exit
polls/results from Tuesday's US election acted to determine direction
through Asian trade overnight, with early calls that Romney would win
Florida providing the dollar with an early boost that took cable to
Asian session lows of $1.5969. However, as results began to filter
through and show Pres. Obama on course to gain the necessary Electoral
College votes to win the dollar was sold back with rate pressured to a
high of $1.6037 before momentum faded. Rate eased to $1.6022 before
picking up fresh demand ahead of the European open, the rate trading
back above $1.6030 into the session. Expectation that continued fall out
from the election result will be a major determinate of direction
through the day on position adjustment as analysts publish their
reports. A light UK calendar today, BOE Haldane is due to testify to the
UK Banking Panel at 0930GMT the domestic highlight. Attention turning
to Thursday's rate announcement from the BOE, followed by the ECB.
Dollar-yen declines following the bearish inside-day/harami
pattern, the pair moved lower breaking support levls to be turned away
from the former 38.2% Fibonacci level at Y79.82, now initial support
with the session low at Y79.81. Daily tech studies are also weaker and
we see traders eyeing a move down to the 200-DMA at Y79.63. Initial
resistance seen as the Oct 25 and 26 highs at Y80.34/38.
Euro-yen continues to test the lower channel support level as
downside pressure mounts, however bulls are winning the struggle to keep
the pair within the rising channel. Initial support at Y102.16/20, the
channel lower and the 200-DMA. The weekly Tenkan line also forms support
around Y102.05. Daily tech studies remain bearish, however 10-day
momentum is a touch firmer. Initial res seen around Y103.87-99.
Japan's benchmark stock indices ended Wednesday's session mixed.
The Nikkei 225 was lower by 2.26 points, or 0.03%, at 8972.89. Just
ahead of the close, the broader-based TOPIX was higher by 1.07 points at
745.95. Preliminary volume in the Nikkei stocks totalled 1.1338 bn
shares, with 99 issues higher, 95 lower and 31 unchanged.
The Shanghai Composite Index ends the morning session down 0.30% at
2,099.65.
The Hang Seng Index ends the morning session down 0.35% at 21,867.67.
GOLD: Spot gold prices are trading in positive territory Wednesday,
extending their gains posted during the previous day. Spot gold ended
Tuesday's session $31 higher at $1716/oz, driven by some weakness
observed in the US dollar after Barrack Obama was re-elected in the US,
paving the way for continued monetary stimulus in the world's largest
economy. Gold prices have extended their gains during Asian hours this
morning, advancing from intra-day lows of $1705.93/oz to print an
intra-day high of $1728.50/oz a few moments ago. Metals brokers also
report macro buying around $1725/oz on the London opening. Spot gold
currently trades at $1725.40/oz, up $9.40 on the session.
OIL: December NYMEX WTI prices are trading marginally lower Wednesday
after posting some strong gains during the previous session. December
WTI futures ended Tuesday's session $3.06 higher at $88.71 a barrel,
outperforming a strong Election Day jump in global equity markets, with
many market participants surprised by the surge in oil prices. Some
traders saw the rally as mainly technical driven after oil prices did
not sustain levels below $85 a barrel during Monday's session. In terms
of supply, US crude inventories fell 27,000 barrels in the week ending
November 2, according to the American Petroleum Institute's weekly
report released late on Tuesday, against expectations that crude stocks
would be higher. Focus now turns to today's Energy Information
Administration (EIA) weekly oil data, due to be published today at
1530GMT. December WTI futures have advanced from session lows of $87.87
this morning, to trade an intra-day high of $88.60, with the market
currently trading $88.48 a barrel, down 23 cents on the session.
NATURAL GAS: NYMEX December natural gas futures are trading lower
Wednesday after prices posted some decent gains during the previous
session. December natural gas futures ended Tuesday's session up 6.3
cents, or 1.8%, at $3.617 per million British thermal units (Btu) after
trading in a range between $3.513 and $3.62. Prices were underpinned by
expectations for a fairly light inventory build and by some cold weather
scheduled for this week, stirring demand for more heating, despite
concerns about record-high supplies. December natural gas prices have
edged their way back lower this morning from an intra-day high of $3.617
to hold at a session low of $3.581, with the market currently remaining
near the lower end of its range trading $3.584 per mln Btu.
FX: Option expiries for today's 1000EDT cut,
* Euro-dollar; $1.2900, $1.2875, $1.2850, $1.2800, $1.2750, $1.2955
* Dollar-yen; Y79.75, Y79.95, Y80.00, Y80.50
* Cable; $1.6025
* Euro-sterling; stg0.8035
* Aussie; $1.0370, $1.0375, $1.0400, $1.0425
EUROZONE: Timeline of key events in the eurozone for next few weeks:
- Nov 6/7 Greek unions 48-hour strike to protest austerity
- Nov 7 ECB Draghi speaks on eurozone economy in Frankfurt at 1210GMT
- Nov 7 EU issues Autumn Economic forecasts
- Nov 7 German FinMin Schaeuble attend parliamentary budget committee
- Nov 7 German Merkel speaks to European Parliament at 1515GMT
- Nov 7 Greek parliament vote on labor market reforms at 2200GMT
- Nov 8 ECB meeting, Draghi's first anniversary as ECB President
- Nov 8 Spain sells 2015-/2018 Bono-/2032 Oblig bonds for up to E4.5bn
- Nov 8 German Merkel meet British PM Cameron, in London
- Nov 8 Greek Aug unemployment data
- Nov 8/9 AFME European govt bond conference - EU debt chiefs speak
- Nov 9 Greece T-bill redemption for E1.6bln
- Nov 11 Greek parliament votes on 2013 Budget
- Nov 11 Armistice day holiday
- Nov 12 Eurogroup meeting to discuss Greek program furthe
Ostatnio zmieniony 07 lis 2012, 08:15 przez niemiaszek, łącznie zmieniany 1 raz.
... zbieraj pips do pipa bo jak nie to z depo będzie lipa... G."niemiaszek"
Re: DayTrading: Środa 7.11.2012
jeszcze jak podciagna troche SP500 to mozna S podebrac bo bedzie gra juz pod fiskal klif i edka pociagna w dol za soba zobaczymy trzeba obserwowac sesjie dzis w USA
sesjie dzis w USA
Re: DayTrading: Środa 7.11.2012
Kamiop pisze:Witam,
czy ktoś by mi mógł wytłumaczyć dlaczego DJ30 spada?? Dlaczego nie ma korelacji z EURUSD?
Dziękuję
Moim zdaniem realizacja zysków.
Znalazłem coś takiego też:
Idą niepewne czasy jak Obama pozostanie prezydentem. Tj. pewne - jeśli będzie nadal tak prowadził politykę..."Projected Obama wins in some key swing states sending USD lower
Obama victory seen as clearing the way for extended Fed QE
Risk currencies moving higher against USD despite fall in S&P futures
S&P futures down 0.80%, as Obama seen as less Wall Street-friendly than Romney
EUR/USD resistance at 200-day MA at 1.2826 "
Niepewność, bo i bankructwo USA wcale nie wykluczone - Obama to socjal. Jego reformy to ściema.
Mi generalnie to rybka, ważne że ta padaka na EURUSD się kończy. Miałem plan kupować USD - ale teraz no nie wiem
Chyba jednak sobie odpuszczę.1.29 - 1.2920 może być w grze.
Ktoś pisał, że Wybory USA nie mają wpływu na kurs...
Jak w czasie meczu Grecji z inną reprezentacją - Grecja strzelała gola - Kurs EURUSD skończył ok 10 pips momentalnie, ale nie miało to wpływu na trend oczywiście
Wybór prezydenta najbardziej wpływowej gospodarki na świecie jest istotne dla rynków.
Szczególnie kiedy kandydaci mają zupełnie odmienne spojrzenie na gospodarkę i wychodzenie jej z kryzysu.
Ostatnio zmieniony 07 lis 2012, 08:21 przez marekdt, łącznie zmieniany 1 raz.
Quo Vadis? Już wiesz ?
"Rynek nagradza cierpliwych"
↱↴↱↴ więc siedź na dupie i czekaj↱↴↱↴↴↴
"Rynek nagradza cierpliwych"
↱↴↱↴ więc siedź na dupie i czekaj↱↴↱↴↴↴
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Mpapiez
Re: DayTrading: Środa 7.11.2012
Nowy123 pisze:jeszcze jak podciagna troche SP500 to mozna S podebrac bo bedzie gra juz pod fiskal klif i edka pociagna w dol za soba zobaczymy trzeba obserwowac
To jest DT a ty strzelasz w to co będzie za 6 godzin.
Imo popełniasz jeden mały błąd. Przeczytałeś czyjąś opinię na zerohedge i ostro się jej trzymasz. Oby ten twój guru się nie mylił
.Ja dalej się trzymam tego że jeszcze podejdziemy do góry, bo jeszcze europa i usa nie miały okazji wejść na wygraną obamy.