DayTrading: Piątek 07.10.2016
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Re: DayTrading: Piątek 07.10.2016
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Re: DayTrading: Piątek 07.10.2016
Hello
Thomson Reuters own the RTSL forex platform 7 Oct
Comments just appearing on their news pages.
They now say:
" An outlying trade in sterling that created a fresh 31-year low for the currency on Friday has been cancelled, said Thomson Reuters, which owns the Reuters foreign exchange brokerage platform RTSL.
The cancellation resulted in the sterling's GBP=D3 low of $1.1378, captured on charts in early Asian trading, being revised to $1.1491.
Sterling plunged in early trade on Friday as anxiety over a "hard" exit by Britain from the European Union triggered a wave of selling.
At the new 31-year lows, sterling was still down 9 percent from Thursday's close at one point and 11 percent since Sept. 29.
It later recouped most of the losses seen in Asia but was still down around 1.4 percent by early afternoon."
What are your stories from last night's move. Share them here.
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Comments from various bank analysts from around the place
Collated via Reuters:
"Low liquidity amplified the move. People suspect a 'fat finger' triggered stop-loss orders," said Kaneo Ogino, director at foreign exchange research firm Global-info Co in Tokyo.
"The move coincided with an FT story about French President Hollande demanding tough Brexit negotiations. The move was exacerbated once stops were tripped below a key level of $1.2600 in very thin trading before the U.S. payrolls," said Su-Lin Ong, senior economist at RBC Capital Markets.
"This is still the thinnest time of day for anything pretty much, the gap between New York and Tokyo. It's probably the time of day where you'll get the sharpest move for the smallest amount of selling but really we didn't see a news catalyst for it," said Sean Callow, senior currency strategist at Westpac . Sterling has been "on a precipice since Sunday, since Theresa May and the March Brexit negotiations," he said, adding, "I think we've underestimated how many people had money positions for a very wishy-washy Brexit, or even none."
via Bloomberg:
Derek Mumford, a director at Rochford Capital Pty in Sydney: "The speed of the move looks like a kind of a flash crash, some sort of failure," Mumford said, adding that sterling is set to drop to $1.15 in the coming weeks if it doesn't recover above $1.28. "I'm sort of struggling to justify it. I don't think there's any shock that the EU will be going for a hard Brexit."
On Hollande's remarks .... "Such comments on their own would not be enough to cause a plunge on this scale, but once a move gets going in thin liquidity it can snowball quickly," said Gareth Berry, a foreign-exchange and rates strategist in Singapore at Macquarie Bank Ltd. While the pound "may recover to the $1.25 area today, all technical support has now been obliterated, so sterling is doomed from here over the months ahead."
"It looks like it was a algorithm-driven flash crash triggered by a Financial Times article based on French President Hollande's speech on Brexit," said Angus Nicholson, a markets analyst in Melbourne at IG Ltd. "Given low volumes in the Asian session, it would have forced other algorithms to join in and magnify the fall."
CNBC gathers these together:
Because there was no news so far to justify the pound's wild swing, it could be the result of a fat finger, said Elias Haddad, senior currency strategist at Commonwealth Bank of Australia
John Gorman, head of non-yen rates trading at Nomura Securities, said via email that there were two theories floating around."First, it was a fat finger or a trade entered mistakenly. The second possibility, which sounds more reasonable, is that there is a large barrier option that traded and that caused the selloff in light liquidity."
But because other currencies did not see corresponding moves, it may not be a liquidity issue, flagged UBS' chief Asia-Pacific investment officer Kelvin Tay.
"Usually, fat finger errors don't have the continuity that we're seeing right now. There's a chance that it might been an error but I don't think we haven't seen the last of the lows," Ashraf Laidi
Kathy Lien, managing director of foreign exchange strategy at BK Asset Management."It's a low liquidity sell-off. Typically when we see this, the reversal is violent but with fundamental support, the pound could find a new range between 1.22 and 1.25 per dollar,"
more via Reuters:
"This was even a bigger move than what we saw after the Brexit vote. There were almost no offers, no bids when this happened," said a trader at a European bank in Tokyo.
"A few stops got triggered in early trading and once cable broke 1.20, option barriers sent it lower," said Gerrard Katz, head of Asian FX sales and trading at Scotiabank said. "The broader market impact has been limited and cable should consolidate between the 1.20 and 1.25 levels."
najlepsze określenie na fx to anal, jedni drugich bez mydła... i nic tego do końca świata nie zmieni



Thomson Reuters own the RTSL forex platform 7 Oct
Comments just appearing on their news pages.
They now say:
" An outlying trade in sterling that created a fresh 31-year low for the currency on Friday has been cancelled, said Thomson Reuters, which owns the Reuters foreign exchange brokerage platform RTSL.
The cancellation resulted in the sterling's GBP=D3 low of $1.1378, captured on charts in early Asian trading, being revised to $1.1491.
Sterling plunged in early trade on Friday as anxiety over a "hard" exit by Britain from the European Union triggered a wave of selling.
At the new 31-year lows, sterling was still down 9 percent from Thursday's close at one point and 11 percent since Sept. 29.
It later recouped most of the losses seen in Asia but was still down around 1.4 percent by early afternoon."
What are your stories from last night's move. Share them here.
każdy teraz mądry

Comments from various bank analysts from around the place
Collated via Reuters:
"Low liquidity amplified the move. People suspect a 'fat finger' triggered stop-loss orders," said Kaneo Ogino, director at foreign exchange research firm Global-info Co in Tokyo.
"The move coincided with an FT story about French President Hollande demanding tough Brexit negotiations. The move was exacerbated once stops were tripped below a key level of $1.2600 in very thin trading before the U.S. payrolls," said Su-Lin Ong, senior economist at RBC Capital Markets.
"This is still the thinnest time of day for anything pretty much, the gap between New York and Tokyo. It's probably the time of day where you'll get the sharpest move for the smallest amount of selling but really we didn't see a news catalyst for it," said Sean Callow, senior currency strategist at Westpac . Sterling has been "on a precipice since Sunday, since Theresa May and the March Brexit negotiations," he said, adding, "I think we've underestimated how many people had money positions for a very wishy-washy Brexit, or even none."
via Bloomberg:
Derek Mumford, a director at Rochford Capital Pty in Sydney: "The speed of the move looks like a kind of a flash crash, some sort of failure," Mumford said, adding that sterling is set to drop to $1.15 in the coming weeks if it doesn't recover above $1.28. "I'm sort of struggling to justify it. I don't think there's any shock that the EU will be going for a hard Brexit."
On Hollande's remarks .... "Such comments on their own would not be enough to cause a plunge on this scale, but once a move gets going in thin liquidity it can snowball quickly," said Gareth Berry, a foreign-exchange and rates strategist in Singapore at Macquarie Bank Ltd. While the pound "may recover to the $1.25 area today, all technical support has now been obliterated, so sterling is doomed from here over the months ahead."
"It looks like it was a algorithm-driven flash crash triggered by a Financial Times article based on French President Hollande's speech on Brexit," said Angus Nicholson, a markets analyst in Melbourne at IG Ltd. "Given low volumes in the Asian session, it would have forced other algorithms to join in and magnify the fall."
CNBC gathers these together:
Because there was no news so far to justify the pound's wild swing, it could be the result of a fat finger, said Elias Haddad, senior currency strategist at Commonwealth Bank of Australia
John Gorman, head of non-yen rates trading at Nomura Securities, said via email that there were two theories floating around."First, it was a fat finger or a trade entered mistakenly. The second possibility, which sounds more reasonable, is that there is a large barrier option that traded and that caused the selloff in light liquidity."
But because other currencies did not see corresponding moves, it may not be a liquidity issue, flagged UBS' chief Asia-Pacific investment officer Kelvin Tay.
"Usually, fat finger errors don't have the continuity that we're seeing right now. There's a chance that it might been an error but I don't think we haven't seen the last of the lows," Ashraf Laidi
Kathy Lien, managing director of foreign exchange strategy at BK Asset Management."It's a low liquidity sell-off. Typically when we see this, the reversal is violent but with fundamental support, the pound could find a new range between 1.22 and 1.25 per dollar,"
more via Reuters:
"This was even a bigger move than what we saw after the Brexit vote. There were almost no offers, no bids when this happened," said a trader at a European bank in Tokyo.
"A few stops got triggered in early trading and once cable broke 1.20, option barriers sent it lower," said Gerrard Katz, head of Asian FX sales and trading at Scotiabank said. "The broader market impact has been limited and cable should consolidate between the 1.20 and 1.25 levels."
najlepsze określenie na fx to anal, jedni drugich bez mydła... i nic tego do końca świata nie zmieni


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Re: DayTrading: Piątek 07.10.2016
Maciej widac ze jestes swiezak forexowy ale to naprawde nic nowego takie rzeczy sie dzieja o dziwnych porach to juz normaMaciej_W pisze:Witam. Widzę że ciekawe rzeczy się przez noc działy.

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Re: DayTrading: Piątek 07.10.2016
Każdy kiedyś zaczynałDavidFx pisze:Maciej widac ze jestes swiezak forexowy ale to naprawde nic nowego takie rzeczy sie dzieja o dziwnych porach to juz normaMaciej_W pisze:Witam. Widzę że ciekawe rzeczy się przez noc działy.
Re: DayTrading: Piątek 07.10.2016
ja liczyłem skalpowanie ma te same załozenia, wszystko i tak sprowadza sie do dobrze podjetej decyzji i ich ilości WIN/LOSS na osi czasu
kazda pozycja musi mieć SL, a w przypadku popularnie nazywanego skalpu ta wartość musi byc bardzo mała
przykład
poskalpuje sobie, ale bez SL, otwarcie cena wali 20-30pips w druga stronę a potem zamykam na 10pips +
Tak sie nie da, porażka i wyczyszczenie na 100%, zalozenia i tak muszą byc matematyczne dlatego R/R musi być minimum 1:1
czyli w tym układzie TP 10pips, 10pips SL
teraz pytanie ile osób stawiając sztywno SL na 10pips bedzie miało minimum 50% wygranych?
lepiej zwiekszyc i dopasować SL lub wyczystke do własnych umiejetności np 30pips, ale wpłacic tylko kwote X, i nadwyzki ponad 100% depo wypłacać
jesli uda mi się otworzyć na 130,044 GBP/JPY i cena poleci w dół to zarobie tyle set procent, ze bede miał x razy nawet na stratę i tak bede na plus
wszystko opiera sie o wiedzę i i tak sprowadza się do jednego, ze matematyki nie oszukasz
kazda pozycja musi mieć SL, a w przypadku popularnie nazywanego skalpu ta wartość musi byc bardzo mała
przykład
poskalpuje sobie, ale bez SL, otwarcie cena wali 20-30pips w druga stronę a potem zamykam na 10pips +
Tak sie nie da, porażka i wyczyszczenie na 100%, zalozenia i tak muszą byc matematyczne dlatego R/R musi być minimum 1:1
czyli w tym układzie TP 10pips, 10pips SL
teraz pytanie ile osób stawiając sztywno SL na 10pips bedzie miało minimum 50% wygranych?
lepiej zwiekszyc i dopasować SL lub wyczystke do własnych umiejetności np 30pips, ale wpłacic tylko kwote X, i nadwyzki ponad 100% depo wypłacać
jesli uda mi się otworzyć na 130,044 GBP/JPY i cena poleci w dół to zarobie tyle set procent, ze bede miał x razy nawet na stratę i tak bede na plus
wszystko opiera sie o wiedzę i i tak sprowadza się do jednego, ze matematyki nie oszukasz
Chciałem podziękować tym osobom za ich wkład w mój trading, kolejność ma znaczenie, proszę to oni: ZEUSSFX, RYCHU, GREEN7, MIGHTY BAZ
EKIPA NIE DO POKONANIA.
EKIPA NIE DO POKONANIA.
Re: DayTrading: Piątek 07.10.2016
Tak, jak zawieram dużo transakcji, ale nie mam takich wyliczeń.Tomasz196407 pisze:ciekawi mnie skuteczność scalpowania?, czy ktoś robił porównanie ile mniej wynosi zysk z x pozycji po xx pips
niż z jednej pozycji opartej o te same ruchy na instrumencie
pamiętam jak ktoś tu tworzył teorie dt dłuższego czasu przebywania na rynku i ryzyka z tym związanego?![]()
a przebywanie x razy na rynku nie daje tego samego czasu?
Tsunami Ty grasz tak masz jakieś szacunki w moim problemie teoretycznym?
Moja metoda gry jest dostosowana do mojej psychiki i charakteru.
Lubię odpalać pozycję z niskiego interwału i od razu lub po paru sekundach widzieć rosnący zysk, który zamykam.
The only way is up
Re: DayTrading: Piątek 07.10.2016
kazdy tak lubiTsunamiPL pisze: Lubię odpalać pozycję z niskiego interwału i od razu lub po paru sekundach widzieć rosnący zysk, który zamykam.

-- Dodano: 07 paź 2016, 8:20 --
Farciarz jestes juz w eskach na rzezniku?
-- Dodano: 07 paź 2016, 8:22 --
Tsunami niski interwal masz na mysli m15?
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Re: DayTrading: Piątek 07.10.2016
wziałes pod uwage koszt transakcji,TsunamiPL pisze:Tak, jak zawieram dużo transakcji, ale nie mam takich wyliczeń.Tomasz196407 pisze:ciekawi mnie skuteczność scalpowania?, czy ktoś robił porównanie ile mniej wynosi zysk z x pozycji po xx pips
niż z jednej pozycji opartej o te same ruchy na instrumencie
pamiętam jak ktoś tu tworzył teorie dt dłuższego czasu przebywania na rynku i ryzyka z tym związanego?![]()
a przebywanie x razy na rynku nie daje tego samego czasu?
Tsunami Ty grasz tak masz jakieś szacunki w moim problemie teoretycznym?
Moja metoda gry jest dostosowana do mojej psychiki i charakteru.
Lubię odpalać pozycję z niskiego interwału i od razu lub po paru sekundach widzieć rosnący zysk, który zamykam.
i ten koszt x iles tych transakcji
Re: DayTrading: Piątek 07.10.2016
130,04 oczekujące na S i czekam, gdzies tam zgodnie z obliczeniami odbije, mozliwe, że bedzie to ruch na m1 około 10.30DavidFx pisze:
Farciarz jestes juz w eskach na rzezniku?
ryzykuje tylko 40pips, tyle mam na wyczystkę

Chciałem podziękować tym osobom za ich wkład w mój trading, kolejność ma znaczenie, proszę to oni: ZEUSSFX, RYCHU, GREEN7, MIGHTY BAZ
EKIPA NIE DO POKONANIA.
EKIPA NIE DO POKONANIA.